With all due respect to President Zelensky, the plan for Ukrainian independence was developed and used in achieving Russian satellites' independence from Russia!

I sat down with those who might have had a part in designing what worked against the Russian Bear when I was in Russia!

The Russians are very independent and believe in themselves.  What worked was internal sabotage by the workers some of whom were to keep those working on Russian defense projects in line.  Russians, in short, are to work against the subjugation and repression of other peoples whose land and toil Putin  extracts.

I believe that method still works.

My opinion.